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NSA Wiretapping

NSA whistleblower Russell Tice was back on Keith Olbermann's MSNBC program Thursday evening to expand on his Wednesday revelations that the National Security Agency spied on individual U.S. journalists, entire U.S. news agencies as well as "tens of thousands" of other Americans.  http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/01/nsa-whistlebl-1.html

In 2006, both Alberto Gonzales, then the Attorney General and Harriet Meirs, denied such extensive spying was going on. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/02/AR2006030201783.html.

Tice said that the spy agency also combined information from phone wiretaps with data that was mined from credit card and other financial records. He said information of tens of thousands of U.S. citizens is now in digital databases warehoused at the NSA.

“The National Security Agency had access to all Americans’ communications,” he said. “Faxes, phone calls and their computer communications. … They monitored all communications.”

Did the NSA show the necessary probable cause?  It appears that they did not.

Did Gonzales know about this?  How else could it happen.

What should happen now?  Should a special prosecutor be appointed to investigate this?  Should Gonzales be indicted? 

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cathy_edgett
Jan. 24th, 2009 03:52 pm (UTC)
Gonzales, from the beginning, said what he was and what he would do. I think a good many of the people in the Bush administration, including Bush himself, should be indicted, but in light of the economic disaster affecting the world, I think we may have better things to do.

On the other hand, China had no trouble punishing those responsible for the melamine tainted milk. Two men have been sentenced to death. Perhaps, if there had been proper punishment for Iran-Contra, the same group of bullies wouldn't have come in to this administration to do more damage.

I think they should all be prosecuted, and I don't expect to see it happen.

I also wonder how much the American people are responsible. Gonzales said what he would do, that he believed in torture and we seemed to ignore his words. Does that make him less guilty? Perhaps not, but I think the American people bear direct responsibility for what went on under the Bush administration. What amazes me is that some Americans continue to defend it. I do not begin to understand.

It is why I now spend hours a day in meditation. There, is a world I do understand.
cathy_edgett
Jan. 24th, 2009 03:54 pm (UTC)
It does seem Gonzales and Harriet Miers should be brought up on charges, but again, I do not expect to see it.
jellomarx
Jan. 24th, 2009 03:58 pm (UTC)
I kept looking to see if anything was stated under oath. If you remember that was a controversy, they didn't want to be sworn in.
cathy_edgett
Jan. 24th, 2009 04:07 pm (UTC)
Wow! Very smart on their part and very suspicious. Why were they allowed to get away with it, and yet, Bush would have pardoned them if they had been under oath and in risk of sentencing. Of course, now, that power is gone.

I go back and forth on punishment and yet in the case of this now past administration, it has been so blatant, it seems something should be done, and, again, it strikes me that Obama is not interested in that path. We'll see though. Maybe it will be necessary to clear the way and send a message of some sort.
jellomarx
Jan. 24th, 2009 04:11 pm (UTC)
I think that Ford did the right thing when he pardoned Nixon. The country has to move on. I don't know how far that precedent should be carried.
cathy_edgett
Jan. 24th, 2009 04:18 pm (UTC)
Yes, I agree with you there. Yes.

As I say, my sense of Obama is that he is in to moving on. We'll see. There may be a place of necessary accountability as he works to return the country to the place of perceived freedom it enjoyed before the Bushies entered office.
rob_t_firefly
Jan. 25th, 2009 01:26 am (UTC)
Should he? Yes.
Will he? I wouldn't bet the farm.
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